VICIDIAL Licensing and sales: What is OK and what is not

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Re: VICIDIAL Licensing and sales: What is OK and what is not

Postby carpenox » Tue May 25, 2021 10:28 pm

yea im sure asterisk king didnt send anything to vicidial either, but thats ok, i took it anyways. im not the one, lol
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Re: VICIDIAL Licensing and sales: What is OK and what is not

Postby Acidshock » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:43 pm

Convoso still been ignoring me. Even ignored another friend of mine. Any chance of that you may end up sending a demand Matt? I know they are large so I wouldnt blame you if you didnt want to pursue it. Just curious though. Lots of stuff that could be useful in that code base.
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Re: VICIDIAL Licensing and sales: What is OK and what is not

Postby mflorell » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:33 pm

Demand letters can only come from a "user" of their system. Since I'm not one of those I can't send them a demand letter. But, just so you know what you might be in for...

The next step after you send one of those yourself(and they ignore it), is to involve a lawyer to send a more threatening letter.

After the ignore that one, you have your lawyer file a lawsuit.

After they ignore and loose the lawsuit, you have to have your lawyer file to have the court compel them to provide the code.

After they ignore that court order, you have to have your lawyer file to seize assets of the company.

After they ignore that, you actually have to find a local company to go and seize their assets, if they can locate them.

If you do actually get the assets of the company, they very likely will not include the source code you were looking for.

Can you tell we've been through this process before? :)
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Re: VICIDIAL Licensing and sales: What is OK and what is not

Postby carpenox » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:55 am

lol damn, what a mission, i find it easier to just hack into their system and get it myself like i may have done with king asterisk(hypothetically speaking of course)

LOL

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Re: VICIDIAL Licensing and sales: What is OK and what is not

Postby Acidshock » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:00 am

Good news is I dont think they would go underground. They are too big for that. Have you guys ever seen it? (Just curious)

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mflorell wrote:Demand letters can only come from a "user" of their system. Since I'm not one of those I can't send them a demand letter. But, just so you know what you might be in for...

The next step after you send one of those yourself(and they ignore it), is to involve a lawyer to send a more threatening letter.

After the ignore that one, you have your lawyer file a lawsuit.

After they ignore and loose the lawsuit, you have to have your lawyer file to have the court compel them to provide the code.

After they ignore that court order, you have to have your lawyer file to seize assets of the company.

After they ignore that, you actually have to find a local company to go and seize their assets, if they can locate them.

If you do actually get the assets of the company, they very likely will not include the source code you were looking for.

Can you tell we've been through this process before? :)
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Re: VICIDIAL Licensing and sales: What is OK and what is not

Postby mflorell » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:39 am

Yes, we are well aware of SafeSoft/Convoso. They have been reported to us before, and we've even had a couple of their clients call us for support in the past.
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